im going to branch off to another forum!!!!

I have visited this place on many occasions weather its 3 am or noon always glad i went.
Its fair to say they are similar to forever young.As where you have to see the mamasan before you are allowed to see the other girls provided HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras.In this case hope you see the mamasan.Your next trip will be worth it.Bad side of this place its mixed some offer HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras some do not.You have a better chance of getting HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras if you pay the 200 vs 100.u could try the cheaper rout of 100 then go back 2nd time and do the 200+ tip. Its best to not ask allot of questions .Asking particulars about HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras here the girls will back away like you have the plaque.Ladies are pretty straight forward here.They never initiate anything."Mamasan." once told me its a safety issue.Sucks you had such a bad experience ive never had a bad anything here.YMMV is a fair thing to say

BTW msggrl

Do not get easily discouraged.You are in a very hard business.I'm sure your hard work does not go un rewarded.I would not want to be in your shoes for even one day. You women put up with allot from some of us assholes!Seems as though you yourself know what you want. its your body how are we to say how you use it to what you charge for it. If they appreciate you they will return. If they do not they will go else where do not take it personally. This business we want everything as cheap as possible and as simple as possible! Thats just how it is.

It's about time

No, you're not wrong. But then again, the average hobbiest isn't a Rockefeller or a Clinton either. We're just average Joes and we need to watch how we spend our money, especially in this economy.



That was another place I felt ripped off. Granted, I didn't pay those prices, nowhere near, but I still felt ripped off. Therapist massaged (competently, not greatly -- just competently) and teased and hinted (fairly frankly, I might add) that if I came back, HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras would be available. Stupid me, I did go back -- about an hour later. Saw her in the lobby and she quickly walked away, doing the "I've never seen that guy before and don't want to again" thing. I discussed the situation with another therapist toward the end of that second session and she said, "We don't do that sort of thing here," all nice and snotty.

Yeah, I'll never go there again and I won't recommend it to anyone either.



I was a member of MFP and, sorry, but for the most part, the prices charged were pretty standard for the local market. Sure, some charged a little more, some a little less, but that's going to happen in any market.



That's highly specialized training, too. For something like that, I'd expect to be paying a bit more. Sorry, Msggrl, but you're pretty much comparing brain surgeons to a neighborhood barber here.



Wow. And you ladies actually put up with that? Makes me wonder who's typically getting ripped off more -- the customer or the girl.



Which one?



Here, here!



Why do I feel like you're talking at me when you say that, Derpydoo?



Geez, man, now I know you're talking about me! Sheesh! *g*

In all fairness, I should clarify just how the therapist at M Studio teased or, rather, how I perceived it. Part of it was the hinting at HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras -- topless and nude are all that I kind of remember (hey, it's been a few years, cut me some slack! *g*) -- but it was the way she was saying it, in one of those really low, quiet, "I've got a secret proposition for you" voices. And then there was the light touch. I didn't ask for it and she didn't go anywhere inappropriate (unless you count my butt, but if you do, then you're a bit of a massage prude and need to go elsewhere *g*). All of it combined was enough to get the libido going into overdrive yet trapped in the garage, so, to me anyway, that qualified as some major and skillful teasing.

wanderer

if u where referring to M studio those girls have been known to be a bit snooty but their cute!




about our pay..

it cost allot to run this type of business. advertising can be 5xs the rent of the location.

the best way i put it is

walmart makes billions right but what do they pay their workers 10 an hr?BS!

cos charge 200* pay the girls 80-100(hi end)

escort agencys are the worst they expect u to do fs and get paid as low as 50! those r the total scam places.

but if you are like me u understand all businesses have expenses and by those exp being paid i have a job that supports me and i get tips so on my side i dont complain. as long as im treated well where i work .......other wise i quit faster than the door can close behind me.


working solo is scary!

ive already had bad things happen when their where 8 people and 5 treatment rooms at an establishment....


so i def like having other people around until i get to know and trust a client their always good and bad w every job. so if i have to take a bigger pay cut because of safety its worth it!

you throw the biggest pity parties ever ......You can say what you want, but you're still not going to convince anyone to happily continue to fork over $200,250,300 1hr massage with no or limited HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras. Sorry.

if i was trying to convince id work allot harder

men on here prob wont go to places like these

they are not their market anyways.

u still never answered a q i had for u not that its important


but im pretty sure i have seen you before.

Y because the user name fits you well and the attitude matches it.

but thats enough said about that. i dont fully out people on here i do have some soft of respect.

i only verify in pm...

if ur not that person i think u are i apologize in advanced.. we might not ever know and trust me it wont kill me if i never find out

what's the question?



Impressive you can tell who I am by the screen name. But we do agree on one thing, its not cool to out people or even imply that you might.

I'm not trying to pick fights with you, I just have a very different take than you on expected service vs price. After all, this is a hobby.

Msggrl, are you talking to WifeLover, to me, to someone else here?

And, personally, I don't care how cute a woman is. If she cops an attitude, even just a tidbit of snottiness, I don't want anything to do with her or her establishment.

Why keep beating yourself up Msggrl? Yes, the overwhelming majority of us here will never pay high prices for services with no HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras.

You're absolutely right. Massage rates average about 50-80 per hour. Average erotic 60-100 per hour & average full service is 150-300. I have been doing erotic massages for aprox 10 years now with alot of success. Here is my philosophy; I dont raise my rates or require tipping for "HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras." I think it's tacky and unprofessional to negotiate $. I stay affordable so my clients can leave feeling fulfilled and not ripped off. This usually results in them returning often. I can share a shower or do a body shampoo (free) I want to keep my clients happy, so they return for more. Personality is EVERYTHING in this business!! I genuinly enjoy what I do. In this business "you get what you pay for" rarely applys. It's more like a crap shoot!!

Abby, I think I'm becoming positively smitten with you *g*