I've read posts here that say this place is, and isn't, a FS HE place.

I've been there twice, had great legitimate massages by two different therapists. Each time, I tried hinting that I wanted FS. Each time, they both turned me down. The first girl's name was "Cat," and I forgot the second girl's name (but she's a 24-year old, short and stalky Hmong with nice tits, from California).

When I told the Hmong girl that I would like to remove my towel for the message (I was fully naked), she said "I'm just an apprentice, so I can't do that yet." She's been working there for only about six months. Furthermore, she told me that she doesn't get paid by the house (I paid $120 for a two-hour, legitimate massage...evidently, the Hmong girl doesn't get any of that money). Instead, she makes her money strictly off of tips (so I gave her $30 tip for the massage).

Furthermore, they have a "VIP" room in the back of the suite, near the bathroom. I asked mamasan about this room, and she said it's "for our special guests. Maybe next time you can use this room."

So I'm wondering if that's how this establishment operates...that only after a girl has passed her "apprenticeship" is she allowed to offer FS? Shit, a cheap $50 hand-job would've been good enough for me! ! Better than paying $120 PLUS $30 tip for a "real" massage.

Any input on this?

No FS to be had. Only HJ

That's true. On HJ.

The Hmong girl's name is Stacie, and she does give a really good massage. I have been here three times, twice with Stacie and once with Nan...haven't gotten any "extra" service here. But the massages have all been good.

Okay, so I went there again the other day. Services was a little more erotic...but nothing leading to an orgasm.

Nikky (older Thai woman with the boobs and the booty) convinced me to do a "four hands massage" with Pam (younger, pretty Thai woman) as the second woman. Pam took the towel off me and exposed my totally naked ass, and started massaging my thighs as Pam massaged my back. Eventually, Nikky's hands got higher into my crotch area, and started brushing against my balls. With that, I too started feeling up both women's asses and legs..and they were totally cool with it (just couldn't handle the tits). They turned me over, and my leg massage from Pam included getting my taint and lower nutsack massaged as well, while Nikky brushed the top of my hard penis with her forearm as she massaged my lower belly and chest.

All in all it was a pretty good erotic massage, though quite expensive ($100 plus $25 tip for each girl...I think I tipped too much) and not satisfying (no orgasm). But I guess that worked out perfectly for me that day, as I had a date later that evening with a married woman whom I met online...and we went back to her place (hubby works the late shift) and fucked like rabbits....