I have done two things in SD massage places, and they seem to universally have the same rules. I am not sure why.

1. Went with another guy. Once we did two girls, and also another time shared one girl. They charged what seemed reasonable fees (well, reasonable versus the one-guy fee), and didn't seem to blink about it being unusual at all.

2. Tried on two occasions to go with a girl - I thought we could screw and get a massage at the same time. I tried many standard rub-and-tug places. NONE would let a girl come in. I have no idea why. I am pretty sure it is not religious morality, but some practical consideration. But what exactly it is, I have no fucking idea. We didn't even get to the subject of money. It was just "a woman is NOT coming in here."

Not sure what you mean about "a woman is NOT coming in here."

If you're saying that you wanted your lady friend to participate in a 3-way with you and the therapist at an AMP? Yeah, that's basically a non-starter in just about any place I've been.

Just yesterday a therapist at a local AMP told me about a couple that came in yesterday and the husband was massaged by her partner and she massaged the wife. So, I know there are places that will do basic therapeutic massage on a female, but turning it into a therapist doing anything sensual when a male/female couple come in for a couples massage? That'd be pretty far outside the norm of what I've seen/heard discussed.

A couple of guys going in at the same time and then it's 2 guys with 1 therapist? That's at least as surprising to me as 2 guys with 2 girls if I'm understanding correctly that you mean it was basically a 4-way. Wow.

FJme, I don't quite know what you mean by "Let the girl come in", so I'm going to attack it by 2 points.

(1) FJme, there is 1 place I know that has done 2 providers on 1 hobbiest and that is Elite Spa in the IE. I think the city is Pomona and you would want to talk to Jackie. This place isn't your "Spring chicken" store but with providers that range from 38-49. I've heard a few hobbiest getting this session but the providers do no "BI" action as they just focus on the hobbiest. You might need to go there a few times first until mamasan knows you but it also might be YMMV and I don't guarantee this is going to happen.

(2) If you're asking if a girl can come in and watch, that is even more rare but I read a couple reviews from Escondido Health Spa in Escondido and it was done there but you ask for "Happy"(Provider and now part time Mamasan). You'll need to go there several times so they know you and then proceed. Again, it's going to be YMMV and I don't guarantee this is going to happen as a few hobbiest have tried but were rejected.

What you are asking for is far more common and easier to come by with escorts, rather than massage girls. There are only two reasons a massage girl works in those places and not as an escort. The most common is they are new to the sex trade and don't plan to spend much time there. The second is that place is the only place that would have them.

Either way, anything outside of regular sex needs an escort.

I guess I caused some confusion ...group sex gets complicated.

1. Yes, what I mean is we did both MMF threesome and also MMFF foursome. In the latter case, both F's were girls working at that place....we did not try to bring our own female. The first time we did MMF, and then we realized they basically charged us double, so why not just get another girl. That tends to be true in adult industry in general....if you do MMF, she wants to charge each guy full price. So why not hsve each guy hire a girl separately...then MMFF is same price as MMF.

2. Separately, I did try to bring my own girl on several occassions for MFF threesome. What I had intended, as I said, was for my gf and I to screw, and let the provider massage us. Or maybe the provider would just massage me, and my gf would watch. But since we never got in the door, it was a moot point. Yes, I have done therapeutic massage with a gf, and that is generally no problem. It is only "special massage" places that appear to have a policy of not giving "special massage" when there is a gf present.

I thought they might let me bring my own girl and just charge like a corkage fee...but, no such luck.

(1) Elite Spa in Pomona will do a 3 some, just ask Jackie and you would have to tip each provider but that's only fair to the providers. I have yet to try a 3 some due to the fact of forking up more money and it seems like a waste of money for me but "To each its own" as it might be a fetish for others or an experience. As for MMFF, I'd rather stick with one-one. IMO, getting a provider after she finished and cleaned up after another hobbiest is slightly better than swapping but then again, "To each its own".

(2) I know a place where I've seen it done but that was about 10 years ago. When I was walking out, a young couple came in at closing time. It crossed my mind on me how odd it was but I just continued on. I brought up that situation the next time I saw her and she told me that she did a favor. She doesn't work there anymore. She left that EMP about a year later.

There are many reasons why EMPs (especially Asian spas) do not let women in.

They do not want trouble with LE. Women are vendictive, and they will report an ex-boyfriend, or ex-husband or cheating partners favorite spa to get back at him when they have a fight.

They do not want thier business to be part of your domestic problems.... Dudes do not do this to each other. Simply because even if I fight with a friend we can both enjoy the spa seperately.

Another reason is, there are NOT that many Bi-sexual spa girls, they are typically just regular girls into regular things. I am not saying there is anything wrong with bi-sexual girls, just you don't typically find them in spas.

Dudes walk the halls to the rooms and to the shower, and restroom in nothing but a towel. They sit in the sauna etc. Some guys and MOST girls do not want strange people of the opposite sex (employees excluded) seeing them in this state. Its ok for a girl to be seen by her BF or Husband but bumping into you or me in the hall would probably get her to lodge a complaint, too much risk.

This is absolutely HILARIOUS!! corkage fee... LMFAO!!